Introducing––though I feel as though these two powerhouses need no introduction––Cat and Nat: two incredibly successful women who are not only the best of friends; they’re also big trailblazers. The way Cat and Nat expose the realities of mom life is wonderfully refreshing, and they inspire us to love ourselves for all that we do. Thanks to their #momtruths, their daily Facebook Live show and their events, we laugh out loud a lot harder. catandnat.ca
I remember when we use to gather as The Social Common. You created a community of moms who wanted to share their experiences and have a good ol’ time. Fast–forward to today: Can you believe what’s become of your dreams?!
C: Totally! Nothing all that much. I mean, our mission hasn’t changed. We’ve always been about getting moms together to support one another, laugh at all the shit we do and take a load off.
N: And we’ve ALWAYS loved Michael Strahan!
C: Moms just want to be around others they can trust, so that they can follow them and feel confident about what they’re doing. Our tour and our book honour the fact that we are all in this parenting thing together. We have a virtual event coming up where we’ll be offering our advice on all sorts of parenting topics. You can buy a ticket on our website and we’ll send you a private link to enjoy the event from the comfort of your home.
N: Our mission has always been to bring women together in a space where nobody judges, everyone is equal and each person can share her experience, relate to someone and receive advice. We’ll stay true to that mission until the end.
How do you treat yourselves these days?
C: It’s taken time, but now we level up on hotels and flights when travelling for work. We work so hard and we feel we’ve earned the right to spend a little extra on luxury amenities. At first it was hard to travel and then bust our asses all over a city to find a good restaurant. Now we book our trips with that in mind: great hotels with great restaurants.
N: We make it a point to go out for lunch together every day when we’re home. We also vacation together every year; we rent a house in Florida with our families and it’s the best time. Personally, I take a bath every night. Even if all I have is seven minutes in the tub, I take it and I love it. I splurge on nice bath salts.
What’s had a major impact on your health and wellness in the past few years? For better or worse.
C: Being so busy. Our lack of time has made an impact on our lives. We just don’t have enough time. I work out with my kids beside me because we just don’t have time to go to the gym. But, we don’t get sick. We don’t have time to get sick.
N: In the past few years, I’ve gained more weight, I drink and eat too much, I don’t exercise… and I’m SO happy!
What is your beauty routine? Morning and night.
C: I’m really into Vintner’s Daughter right now. My girlfriend works in the beauty business in NYC and she’s so in the know with all the beauty insiders. She told me to try Vintner’s Daughter and I do what she tells me. I love it! But I honestly don’t think too much about beauty. If there’s a product on my bathroom counter, I’ll try it.
N: I’m really into dry shampoo. I love Batiste. We also love a spray tan. When we’re tanned, we just feel like our skin tones are even and we look good. I love a rose spritz to the face, too. I’ve also just started using Charlotte Tilbury and I’m loving it. We honestly use everything. We have all the serums, the creams, the masks. But then we forget to use what we’re supposed to. It’s whatever is in reach, really. We go to Dr. Pearlman, too. I love BBL, or IPL. I get Botox, fillers, tech-neck line fillers. I will do anything Dr. Pearlman lets me do. She keeps me in line in terms of what suits me, but I would do even more if I could.
Are you into any diets?
C: All of them. We’ve done them all, we do them all, and we do them every day! High carb, low carb––honestly, I do whatever Nat is doing. I think you need to diet in pairs––the support, the sameness, it’s so helpful. Also, we’re together every minute of the day so it’s easier if we eat the same. I fucking hate to cook, though. I’m a mom, not a fucking cook! I don’t know why being a mom and a great cook is a given. Like, okay, you’ve birthed children, now you have to put on a chef’s hat! I hate it.
N: I do every diet and will probably start a new one tomorrow! We have a trainer, Gina, but I like to ignore her texts. I actually love to cook, but only for adults. I used to love hosting dinner parties. I loved preparing a menu, going grocery shopping, prepping the food, everything! But kids have really gotten in the way of that. I’ll get back to it when they move out. The one diet that worked for me was Weight Watchers. I’m gonna get back on that. I just wanna put on a fucking pair of jeans!
Do you ever get hung up on aging?
C: I don’t really think about it. Honestly, we don’t have time to worry about it. Plus, JLo has changed the world when it comes to aging! I love her. She looks fucking amazing.
N: We seriously look forward to being old and rich together. We have a plan for when we’re older: we’re going to live in Florida, drive golf carts all day, be sexy and hot, and, who knows, I might even start smoking. I mean, everyone is gonna die, so why stress about it? I think I get better with age. And fatter.
What’s been the strangest beauty practice you’ve done so far?
C: Tech-neck fillers. They’re so fucking weird. Oh, and the vibrating workout thing. You stand there and get electrocuted. Like, your vagina shakes.
N: I did a colonic because I thought it would make me skinny. I just left feeling bloated. We are weirdos, though––we’ll try anything!
What are the biggest lessons your kids have taught you?
C: That life can be so fucking out of control.
N: They teach me something new every day. That’s the amazing thing about being a mom.
What are your top priorities when it comes to raising your kids?
N: I tell them not to worry so much. I remember when I was a kid, I stressed out all the time over the stupidest things. Just the other day my son had a test and he was so worried about it. I said, “What are you worried about?! Everything is going to be okay.” None of this really matters all too much, so I remind them to relax and not worry.
C: I have a great doctor and she told me that if you’re feeling something, your kids will feel it too. So, if you’re anxious, your kids will feel anxious. It’s important to pay attention to and understand their feelings. I tell them to reflect on their feelings and to not hide them or hold them in. I want them to understand how they feel because that’s what will feed their independence and confidence, and I think that’s important.
In your opinion, what the biggest waste of time and energy?
C: Feeling guilty and worrying about parenting. You’re doing the best you can and you have to be proud of that! Don’t waste time overthinking stupid stuff.
What do you love shopping for?
N: We used to spend too much money on sunglasses, but we buy cheaper ones now.
C: Running shoes––I love buying running shoes. And backpacks! We travel so much and are always on the go, so a good backpack is so practical. We just spent too much money on new backpacks, but we love them. Before we go on tour we buy everything: our stage outfits, our accessories… we go crazy. No stylist––fuck no.
N: I buy a lot of workout gear because I think I’m going to work out if I put the clothes on. I have a sports bra on right now. What for?! I don’t know. I never work out!
Coffee or tea?
N: Coffee. Plain, simple coffee––nothing fancy.
C: I don’t have time for breakfast. I mean, does anyone? I usually eat my kids’ crusts as we run out the door.
Do you take any vitamins and supplements?
C: Sometimes. It depends on the day. Maybe for a week… we max out at a week when it comes to taking anything!
N: We have everything and have tried everything at least once. I hear collagen is good. I might return to taking that again.
How long have each of you been married?
C: Ummmm… I don’t even know! I think maybe 10 years.
N: I think I’m coming up to like 13 years.
Do you make time for date nights?
N: No. I can’t even remember that last time we went out together alone. Actually, the last time we had a date night we got a lot accomplished! We said, “Hey, we should do this more often.” Hah!
C: Fuck, I think we should make a date night.
N: My sister-in-law has regular date nights and they have a great relationship… I should really book a date night with my husband.
C: Our kids are older now so they go to bed later. Leaving them is tough, plus we travel enough as it is. Our husbands are so understanding of our crazy schedules.
N: My marriage is a great partnership. My husband and I have an understanding: I love you and I want to stay with you for the rest of our lives. It’s that simple to us. We’re not big arguers. I know how to make it better, if ya know what I mean.
C: Truly, us ladies know the solution to an argument. And the men don’t care because the problem gets fixed! I think we both feel that we married great guys. We appreciate our lives so much and they do too.
If you could go on a double date with anyone in the world, who would it be with?
C: Do we have to go with our husbands? Haha!
N: See, first we would choose each other and I don’t know if our husbands would fit into the equation. We recently had the most fun out on tour with our crew. It was outrageous. The energy, the dancing, it was just the best night ever. We’d recreate that night. And we all went home at 11:30 p.m.
Where do you dream about vacationing? Where is on your bucket list?
C: I think I’d like to see Hawaii. Maybe it’s too fancy for us, though. We go to this small beach town in Florida every year and it’s our favorite. It’s, like, frozen in time. We just get golf carts and have the greatest time with our families. You don’t have to wear shoes, you don’t have to do anything! We love it there.
N: I wanna see everywhere, I just don’t have time. There are a lot of places I’d like to go, but I’m tired just thinking about it.
What famous mom would you love to have a glass of wine with?
N: Chrissy Tiegen.
C: And Ayesha Curry. Yeah, we would love to party with those two.
What makes you crazy mad?
C: Ungratefulness. Like, when my daughter says, “Wait, I only get half of one freezie??” And I’m like, “Yeah, you get half a freezie or nothing!” Negativity in general makes me mad. It sucks because negativity makes people feel connected and comfortable, which is bullshit. I tell my daughter to use her voice and to be proud of her thoughts and opinions. If you like ballet but your friends don’t, don’t pretend to not like it too! Come on!
N: When one of our people––our sisters, women, mothers––when one of “us” puts someone else down, that really pisses me off. Let’s keep the positivity party going, y’all.
What scares you?
C: My kids getting sick. Anything else I can handle.
N: I don’t like to drive on the highway. I’m not afraid of flying (I actually love turbulence), but I can’t drive fast in my car. I can be in the passenger seat, but I can’t be the driver.
How’s your relationship with social media? What do you really think about it?
C: Numbers matter for business, but personally, numbers can’t matter. It’s like body positivity. Why can’t we just be happy with how we feel? Why do we need numbers to define us? Don’t get too influenced by trends. Stay true to yourself.
N: I was telling my daughter recently about the million views we got on Facebook. She was like, “Why does that matter?” I told them that for a business there’s a certain power in influence, but we have an open conversation with our kids about social media. It’s important to spend time looking inward. My kids love YouTube and the way we look at it is, this is just how they’re consuming content now. We had television, they have YouTube.
Wine. Oh, and chips. Wine and chips. At the same time.
Best mom hack?
It’s not necessarily a “hack,” but whoever invented dry shampoo had moms on the brain. It’s the best. It saves us so much time! Someone now needs to invent a dry shower… is that even possible? Just spray me clean!
What’s scarier: dance mom, hockey mom, or soccer mom?
Dance moms! No question. Do not get in the way of a dance mom. Or, do, but look out, man. It can get ugly real quick. .What’s your TV guilty pleasure?
The Bachelor. We love it and feel so invested and consumed by it all. Like, if we were single, we would do everything in our power to be on it!